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		<title>A good article on Late Discovery and the consequences thereof</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron brought this Guardian article about Late Discovery Adoptees to my attention. Interviews with LDAs and this secretive side of adoption rarely gets the attention such deserve.
Adopted – but we didn&#8217;t know
Here&#8217;s a brief  segment:

&#8220;I was at my uncle&#8217;s funeral when my cousin&#8217;s husband wandered up to me and said, &#8216;I&#8217;ve been wanting to meet you, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron brought this Guardian article about Late Discovery Adoptees to my attention. Interviews with LDAs and this secretive side of adoption rarely gets the attention such deserve.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jan/02/adoption-children-family" target="_blank">Adopted – but we didn&#8217;t know</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a brief  segment:</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; background-repeat: no-repeat; font-family: arial, sans-serif; padding: 0px;">&#8220;I was at my uncle&#8217;s funeral when my cousin&#8217;s husband wandered up to me and said, &#8216;I&#8217;ve been wanting to meet you, because we&#8217;re both adopted.&#8217; It was a huge shock – how could it not be? On the other hand, I had an instant explanation as to why I&#8217;d always felt like a square peg in a round hole when it came to my family.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; background-repeat: no-repeat; font-family: arial, sans-serif; padding: 0px;">&#8220;I once said to my mother, &#8216;I&#8217;ve always felt like I was found on a doorstep.&#8217; She got terribly upset, and I later learned that was the point at which she confided in my cousin&#8217;s husband. She chose him because he&#8217;s a vicar. She assumed he&#8217;d keep it to himself.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; background-repeat: no-repeat; font-family: arial, sans-serif; padding: 0px;">&#8220;My mother had died by the time I found out the truth, but my father hadn&#8217;t, so I asked him about it. He was an unpleasant man and simply said, &#8216;Well, nobody else would have you.&#8217; I threw a cup of tea at him, said that at least it meant I wasn&#8217;t related to him and we never spoke again.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; background-repeat: no-repeat; font-family: arial, sans-serif; padding: 0px;">&#8220;Was I angry? Of course I was. I had been advised not to have children because my mother and brother had both had severe diabetes and had gone blind and died early. To learn I wasn&#8217;t blood-related to them means I made an enormous decision based on fiction.</p>
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<p>While some Bastards are aware of their adopted status and often have lies told to them about their early days, others, untold of the basic historical realities of their own lives, are forced by default to base their decisions and lives over the course of decades around fictions, lies, and secrets. Others never learn the truth.  All of which can have devastating and far reaching implications and consequences.</p>
<p>Oftentimes the anger in the aftermath of such revelations of those decades worth of lies is overlooked, re-framed as if such were merely a purely &#8220;personal problem&#8221; (as opposed to a natural consequence of the broader system that often encouraged keeping the truth from the people most directly affected) or simply outright glossed over. I thought the article did a good job of acknowledging the (fully justified) anger that can accompany such revelations.</p>
<p>Adoption has often meant relationships rooted in lies. The hidden nature of such keeps vital information from the very people it pertains to themselves.</p>
<p>This is why <a href="http://www.bastards.org/" target="_blank">Bastard Nation</a> uses the simple chant:</p>
<blockquote><p>Are you adopted? Are you sure?</p></blockquote>
<p>Adoption is a hidden legacy (often associated with shame) within many families, sometimes without ever being acknowledged or brought to the light of day.</p>
<p>For further LDA resources, see Ron&#8217;s <a href="http://www.latediscovery.org/">http://www.latediscovery.org/</a> page and mailing list. (Always linked in my sidebar.)</p>
<p>Ron and other LDAs are doing important work. They have a very great deal to say about adoption and the long term genuine needs of adopted people.</p>
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		<title>On so called &#8220;Secrecy&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marley/Bastardette has done a post on what can only be termed a nauseating diary and comment thread over on Daily Kos-
REVOLTING ENTITLEMENT BLATHER ON DKOS: &#8220;ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION IS NOT PERVERSE&#8221;
Bastardette, my partner Mike Doughney, and I have a number of comments on the thread, though some of the posts on the thread have been blinking [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marley/Bastardette has done a post on what can only be termed a nauseating diary and comment thread over on Daily Kos-</p>
<h3 class="post-title entry-title"><a href="http://bastardette.blogspot.com/2009/06/revolting-entitlement-blather-on-dkos.html">REVOLTING ENTITLEMENT BLATHER ON DKOS: &#8220;ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION IS NOT PERVERSE&#8221;</a></h3>
<p>Bastardette, my partner <a href="http://www.sleepswithbastard.com/" target="_blank">Mike Doughney</a>, and I have a number of comments on the thread, though some of the posts on the thread have been blinking in and out of &#8220;hidden&#8221; status, due to rampant abuse of the dKos troll rating system.</p>
<p>In any case, much as there are a number of important points brought out by the few voices of saneity on <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/29/725/18020" target="_blank">the thread</a>, I felt this comment I scrawled off was important enough to merit being moved over to BLC, as so called &#8220;Secrecy&#8221; is a term that needs to be addressed head on. I am writing in response to another commenter (beijingbetty, whose words appear in the quote boxes.)</p>
<h4><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2009/6/29/725/18020/347#c347" target="_blank"><strong>&#8220;Secrecy&#8221;: <span class="cu">Far more than mere cultural habit</span></strong></a></h4>
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<blockquote><p><em>It is only cultural habit that says secrecy is a necessary component to adoption.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Would that it were so.</p>
<p>Statements like that hide the entire multi-million dollar industry sitting in the middle of that.</p>
<p>Actually sealed records, particularly of the pre-Roe/Doe era are tangled up in an unseemly web of money, sex and power (who has it, and more often than not, who does not.) Which is not to say, such are a thing of the past, just that certain details have shifted over time.</p>
<p>All kinds of &#8220;indiscretions&#8221;, scandals, &#8220;bastards,&#8221; financial irregularities, backroom deals, agency misdeeds, and not a few Priestly not so celibacies can all easily be hidden within microfiche that the sun doesn&#8217;t reach, buried.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not merely some matter of &#8217;secrecy,&#8217; it&#8217;s also a matter of protecting and maintaining systemic corruption and vested personal interests. (More recently many of those same tactics were moved offshore into the international child market.)</p>
<p>It is neither a relic nor habit that maintains the systems of lies, it&#8217;s often ass covering, plain and simple.</p>
<p>The &#8220;there will be fewer adoptions if secrecy is not guaranteed&#8221; is crap. Not only do Open records states numbers not bear that out, but no so called &#8216;promise of secrecy&#8217; has ever been produced in court, no documents, no power of law to make such verbal assurances.</p>
<p>Agencies made (and make) all kinds of pie in the sky promises to gain their children, from &#8216;it&#8217;ll be a forever secret&#8217; to &#8216; the minute they turn 18 they&#8217;ll come find you and you&#8217;ll be reunited.&#8217;</p>
<p>Neither of which had a legal grounding in law (although in the recent past, as a reaction to successful Openness work, the ass covering &#8220;balancing rights&#8221; paradigm is being shopped around, allegedly giving original mothers a veto power over  our access to our own records. All smokescreen aside, more often than not, it is not genuine &#8217;say&#8217; for original family members so much as it becomes a means by which the state maintains sealed as a default setting and then gives &#8216;lip service&#8217; to the notion of original mothers having power/being granted, for the first time, a new &#8216;right&#8217; of veto.)</p>
<blockquote><p><em>But if we did a better job of supporting all families in this country &#8212; including same sex parents, single parents, better access to child care, better schools, etc., &#8212; would we feel the same way about the need for secrecy?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>More importantly, would that less than 1% of American women who ever willingly relinquish feel the need to do so were they able to receive genuine support, economic, medical, educationally, child care, etc etc etc?</p>
<p>Or does the industry rely on some women&#8217;s desperation and economic plight to fuel the domestic supply?</p>
<p>From the supply end, does adoption thrive in conditions of stability and wealth, or human misery and suffering? Then look to the demand end, who do you suppose does adoptions at price tags often easily exceeding $30,000?</p></div>
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