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		<title>Meltdown, *updated*</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joy Madsen apparently had a complete melt-down on the Facebook &#8220;alt adoption&#8221; group&#8217;s discussion boards last night.
Some of us have seen this behavior from her time and again over the last three years, particularly in relation to the Adoptee Rights Demonstration/Day for Adoptee Rights though usually it&#8217;s been in spaces such as the AAAFC/&#8221;Adult&#8221; adoptees [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://joy21.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Joy Madsen</a> apparently <a href="http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=10878&amp;post=44411&amp;uid=189996890311#topic_top" target="_blank">had a complete melt-down on the Facebook &#8220;alt adoption&#8221; group&#8217;s discussion boards</a> last night.</p>
<p>Some of us <a href="http://www.babylovechild.org/2008/07/26/ard-adult-adoptees-relieves-me-of-my-membership/" target="_blank">have seen this behavior </a>from her <a href="http://www.babylovechild.org/2008/06/01/my-brief-statement-on-what-happened-on-the-adult-adoptees-forum/" target="_blank">time and again</a> over the last three years, particularly in relation to the <a href="http://www.babylovechild.org/tag/ard/" target="_blank">Adoptee Rights Demonstration/Day for Adoptee Rights </a>though usually it&#8217;s been in spaces such as the AAAFC/&#8221;Adult&#8221; adoptees board, behind logins.</p>
<p>What happened on the FB alt adoption board last night is a rare publicly available example.</p>
<p>For those of you who might have been trying to understand some of the many reasons some of us refuse to work with people like Joy and those who tag along with her seeing nothing wrong with what she does, this &#8216;discussion&#8217; may provide some illumination.</p>
<p>We now return you to your regularly scheduled blogging and &#8216;National Adoption Month&#8217;.</p>
<p>*UPDATE*</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, a number of Joy&#8217;s posts from last night have gone &#8216;missing.&#8217;</p>
<p>Fortunately, it&#8217;s never so easy to make information disappear as some might wish.</p>
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		<title>Jumpin&#8217; the gun on South Dakota</title>
		<link>http://www.babylovechild.org/2009/03/13/jumpin-the-gun-on-south-dakota/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Baby Love Child</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whatever the blogging and legislative equivalent of  premature ejaculation is, we appear to have plenty of examples of it clogging the adopt-o-blog-o-sphere at the moment.
Instead of waiting patiently as the saga of the South Dakota open records bills play out, the past 48 hours have seen more than their due share of abject stupidity, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever the blogging and legislative equivalent of  premature ejaculation is, we appear to have plenty of examples of it clogging the adopt-o-blog-o-sphere at the moment.</p>
<p>Instead of waiting patiently as the saga of the South Dakota open records bills play out, the past 48 hours have seen more than their due share of abject stupidity, along the lines of this from Kali/&#8221;<a href="http://www.babylovechild.org/tag/gershom/" target="_blank">Gershom</a>&#8217;s&#8221; blog, pointing to Adult Adoptees Advocating for Change (AAAFC) message board:</p>
<blockquote><p><a title="Permanent Link to I heart South Dakota and bill 153" rel="bookmark" href="http://antiadoption.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/i-heart-south-dakota-and-bill-153/" target="_blank">I heart South Dakota and bill 153</a></p>
<p>Well the news broke in <a href="http://www.adultadoptees.org/forum/index.php?topic=14760.0;topicseen" target="_blank">this thread</a> thanks to Cathy OBC for Me that South Dakota is now…another free state. That makes 7, yes 7 states of the 50 United States that are now free states honoring rights to adoptees and their unconditional access to their original birth certificates.</p></blockquote>
<p>which would indeed be good news, <strong>if it was true</strong>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the South Dakota process has not reached a compromise and <strong>no bill has been signed by the Governor</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Gershom&#8221; (who <a href="http://www.babylovechild.org/2008/12/17/2009s-adoptee-rights-demonstration-in-philly/" target="_blank">still has not addressed the outstanding issue of where the finances from the first adoptee rights demonstration last year in New Orleans went</a>) and her <a href="http://www.babylovechild.org/tag/adoptee-rights-demonstration/" target="_blank">Adoptee Rights Demonstration</a> (ARD) and AAAFC buddies have had no qualms about being butt-inskys into South Dakota (even while pointing at Bastards such as myself, who know damn well when to hold my tongue, as doing &#8220;more damage than good.&#8221;) Quoting her delusional blog entry again:</p>
<blockquote><p>Something else you may notice is South Dakota kept very quiet about this bill. Something to be said for groups trying to pass their bills in their own states. Perhaps to keep the media out of it, perhaps to keep the opponents out, and I think something also very likely is to keep other adoptee rights groups out of it. I know from personal experience some <a href="http://www.babylovechild.org//">Bastards</a> do more damage than good.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ironic that.</p>
<p>Why yes, yes, it <strong>HAD</strong> been very quiet, until certain online adoptees (a la AAAFCers) began flailing at it mile a minute.</p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;ve been paying close attention to S.D., but that hardly means I&#8217;m going be obtrusive about it or gloat about some completely non-existent victory <strong>long before it&#8217;s won</strong>.</p>
<p>Among the &#8216;usual suspects&#8217;  we&#8217;ve also seen posts the likes of this from <a href="http://www.babylovechild.org/tag/amy/" target="_blank">Amy</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p><a title="Lauren" href="http://blog.amyadoptee.com/2009/03/10/congratulations-south-dakota-adoptees.aspx" target="_blank">CONGRATULATIONS SOUTH DAKOTA ADOPTEES</a></p>
<p>Congratulations to South Dakota Adoptees!!! You did it.  It is amazing how you guys did it.  We in the adoption community are thrilled for you.  We are all partying with you right now.  Just one more step and we got it made.  Please Governor Mike Rounds sign this bill.  Treat South Dakota Adoptees as American citizens.  South Dakota makes it the 7th state in the United States to treat adoptees as fully recognized American citizens.</p></blockquote>
<p>Despite her &#8220;tense&#8221; issues, she did at least bother to note, in her own broken blogging sort of way that no, Governor Rounds had not signed it yet. She missed the conference committee step in which the S.D. House and Senate bills differing versions would have to be hammered out, but then civics doesn&#8217;t appear to be any of these bloggers strong suit.</p>
<p>For those &#8220;activists&#8221; in need of a refresher course, perhaps a brief musical interlude is in order (sure this is the Federal example, but the State version isn&#8217;t all that different:)</p>
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<p>They would well to get their facts straight prior to sitting down to the keyboard.</p>
<p>As for us Bastard activists?</p>
<p>Yeah. Still working for adopted people&#8217;s <strong>authentic</strong> access, you know, the kind of bills Governors have actually signed.</p>
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